Rules in Playing Casino Card Games

Dated: 27 Jan 2012
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Does anyone know if the rule that a hand asked to be shown by the up-until-the-asking winner is exempt from the “pixie dust kill” of being tapped upon the muck by the dealer is codified anywhere. I have always understood that anyone involved in a showdown hand can ask to see all remaining hands and that such hands were ineligible to win *unless the asker was the winner*, in which case he becomes the loser if a no-longer-killed hand beats him. Any documented rules about this?

Answer 1:

Often the dealer taps the muck to kill a hand before turning it over. I think this is a bad rule. My thinking is that if a hand is turned over at all, it should win if it contains the best cards and was eligible at the showdown. This is similar to the “retrievable hand” rule, which I have long advocated, and which appears in some of my rulebooks. It says that if the cards are clearly identifiable, they are not dead, even if they accidently touched a portion of the muck. Whether the potential winning hand asked for the cards to be turned over or someone else asked, once the cards are seen — and there’s no chance that they are the wrong cards — the best hand should take the pot. Telling a novice, who is probably already embarrassed for having misread his hand, that he cannot have the pot is not — in my opinion — in the best interests of poker. However, I can see the other side of it, too. And you could argue that the experience of losing the pot will make players more careful in the future.

Answer 2:

Yes….and probably not. If the “winner” asks to see an as-yet-unrevealed hand, which hand can potentially win the pot. Is it documented anywhere? Doubt it.

Answer 3:

Taking a pot from a novice because somebody asked to see a folded hand is not in the best interest of poker.  Such a rule would lead to endless angle shooting.  Creeps constantly asking to see hands when a table “enemy” is involved in a hand. If this is true, then your position is all hands should always be turned over on the river.  I see no need for altering the basic way the game is played because sometimes we all muck the winner by mistake. Somebody folds, their hand is dead.  End of story.  No pixie dust.  You toss your hand away, you lose.  You want to show it, and then show it.  This way, IMO, is the only sane way to go as more and more casinos employ incompetent dealers who do not muck discarded hands instantly.

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